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	<title>Comments on: Can Ipe Clip® deck fasteners be used on decking other than Ipe?</title>
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		<title>By: Tony Hardin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Hardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was so glad to find a fastener like the Ipe Clip to use with my composite deck. I don&#039;t have to worry about mushrooming screwheads that make composite decks look awful. Thanks Ipe Clip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so glad to find a fastener like the Ipe Clip to use with my composite deck. I don&#8217;t have to worry about mushrooming screwheads that make composite decks look awful. Thanks Ipe Clip!</p>
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		<title>By: Bailey A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailey A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, I understand what you mean. Thanks for explaining that for me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, I understand what you mean. Thanks for explaining that for me!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Schiefer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Schiefer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bailey,

While we have, and continue to work on designing a fastener for PT, at this point we do not recommend using hidden deck fastener because PT it is too unstable. Pine simply moves too much and will cause some serious issues with when installed this way. It can shrink so much that it will actually pull out of the fasteners. On the other hand, it could expand so much that it will cause buckling problems.

The inconsistencies found in the drying process and then again in the pressure treating process make it near impossible to tell whether the boards you receive will shrink or expand after installation. It is also near impossible to guess how much they may move because the moisture content in the boards can vary from plank to plank so dramatically.

I wish I had a better response for you at this point, but until pine decking can meet the same specs as hardwood decking, this will probably always be the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bailey,</p>
<p>While we have, and continue to work on designing a fastener for PT, at this point we do not recommend using hidden deck fastener because PT it is too unstable. Pine simply moves too much and will cause some serious issues with when installed this way. It can shrink so much that it will actually pull out of the fasteners. On the other hand, it could expand so much that it will cause buckling problems.</p>
<p>The inconsistencies found in the drying process and then again in the pressure treating process make it near impossible to tell whether the boards you receive will shrink or expand after installation. It is also near impossible to guess how much they may move because the moisture content in the boards can vary from plank to plank so dramatically.</p>
<p>I wish I had a better response for you at this point, but until pine decking can meet the same specs as hardwood decking, this will probably always be the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Bailey A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailey A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 19:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just wondering, is there any way to install pressure treated wood without face screwing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just wondering, is there any way to install pressure treated wood without face screwing?</p>
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